Let’s expose the scene! Blog it.

I don’t know about yall but 90% of my friend base has no clue about the quality of writing that goes on in this scene. And people want to read. It makes them feel good. When was the last time you recommended a book to your friends that wasn’t a classic or a bestseller?

The onus is on us as writers and publishers to expose this scene to readers outside of ourselves. There’s a big blog post on this subject. I can feel it.

As a writer, I would love to be published – not anywhere – but almost anywhere. Anywhere my writing would be read and maybe liked. There are definitely publications whose aesthetic I love and that I love to read, and to be published in one of those would mean much more to me than being published in some journal I have one sample issue of that I don’t even like. But publication is publication, and you do have to start somewhere. I would definitely wish for the success of anywhere that published me – I would wish for the success of any literary publication, because the world would suck more if such things didn’t exist any more.

I understand how frustrating it must be for editors to constantly receive work that makes no sense for their publication, because writers send out manuscripts rapid fire and many don’t bother to learn anything about the places they submit. I think the cause of this is lack of patience. Writers tend to feel, once the writing/editing is done, that their piece needs to be sent out instantly and constantly so that maybe, just maybe, someone will print it, and maybe someone will print the next one, and maybe they can get an agent, and maybe they can quit their day job … etc. It’s a race. And for that reasons I think it’s a hard trend to stop. Personally, after seeing a lot of discussion on this topic, on this site and elsewhere, I’ve tried to become more considerate in my submitting, and I think in the long run this will help me develop relationships with editors and find places where my work fits.

I am the coordinator of an online writing community – Shenandoah Writers Online – no doubt a reason you found Molly’s famous bee picture and my site through Google. The whole reason I started SWO was to create a sense of community. I’d recently moved to a new state and switched careers from, you know, *having one* to writing full time – heh – so I’d lost the social aspect to my job in an instant.

I agree wholeheartedly with Chris: it’s not essential to Tweet, FB, or blog in order to be successful. These are marketing tools. and, though *successful* marketing tools, I sometimes find they can hinder my writing in that they can take me away from writing that which is most important to me (my MSS).

And, yes, it’s true that a writer’s best work comes from being alone (in the “butt in chair and WRITE” sense), but I find great comfort in being able to sort out the details of a plot or just bouncing ideas off my writing friends. Feeding off another’s energy can give me the recharging I sometimes need. Spending the weekend at a writers’ conference can do that, too. At most of those, you’ve got writers of several genres, coming together for a common goal – and yet, just being around like-minded folks can be just what one needs to spark his productivity. Sometimes talking with a writer whose goals lie on the other end of the writing spectrum from your own can give you a kernel of something you never would have had, had you not had differing opinions.

But writers feel a need to share – that’s why we write. To contribute something to an audience – to connect with others. To leave a mark on someone. Somewhere.

In terms of writing words just to get as many of them out there as possible, however/wherever you can, I don’t host live chats and contests and write blog posts to stroke my ego or make myself seem more important than I am; I do it to share what I’ve learned in hopes that others may benefit from it. I write novels in order to connect with an audience and, hopefully, leave some kind of impact on their lives. And my group members follow suit. Sharing ideas makes us all better writers.

Just like anything else, however, one needs to achieve a balance of community and alone-time in terms of writing. This will lead to optimal results – one who gets the words written and also cultivates an audience eager to read them. I don’t know too many writers who wouldn’t consider that being successful – no matter how small the scale.

And, I’m sorry, but if one is writing merely for the “glory”/to be “famous,” they obviously don’t know enough about the business or haven’t been doing it long enough. So much of the business of being a writer is so agonizing – and it’s often for little reward. More often than those who make the NYTimes bestseller list, writers’ dreams of being published aren’t even realized – let alone becoming famous from writing. Anyone in it for “the fame” is grossly under-informed.

People’s motivations vary, but to me, a true writer does so to leave a mark on the world – and does so with purpose. Anyone can start a blog and Tweet/post on Facebook about articles just to write words. But if he has nothing to say, his audience will dwindle in a hurry.

Regarding having an FB account in order to be a part of the burgeoning community, I don’t see that as a negative. What it amounts to is a lot of water cooler talk and cheer leading which is, at best, encouragement and at worst, a distraction and marketing tool. Besides, there’s countless talented writers within the community, successful and not-so-successful, that have no FB account, so I’m not really seeing that as a password into a secret club. Though social media skills are a boon these days, a writer lives and dies by their words. And no amount of twittering can change that.

And regarding the idea that the best work happens when you’re alone, I absolutely agree. Good writing hardly comes out of committee think, and that’s something to be wary of when entering a workshop. But I think this is a totally different situation. There’s a very strong argument that you get better at writing by being around writers better at it than you. And if you don’t have a lot of writers in your area, the next best thing can be sending out an email or starting a conversation on a blog…

Darby: Thanks for weighing in. I get where you’re coming from and it sounds like a damn good place. One of the appeals of reading and writing is the solitary pleasure that it can provide. That’s one of the reasons I love it too.

But I’m the type of guy who needs a crusade. One thing that changed my life is writing and storytelling. It’s become my gospel. And I go out and preach it as much as I can. Not really to convert people, cause I know you can’t change anyone’s mind who doesn’t want it changed, but to locate people who feel the same way. I know there’s kids out there in small towns without good lit scenes and they’re hungry for it. I want to be yet another outlet for them, cause there really wasn’t one for me when I was growing up.

i view a desire for community as a healthy thing, in and of itself. i get my community fill in other spheres, and i have no problem with journals that attempt to build communities. i always, i guess, think of reading and writing as very solitary things, and i love that they are solitary things, its where i go when i need solitariness and introspection. i kind of dont want other people crowding around it. i just want to sit in my chair alone and read a good book is all.

For writers, it’s nice, especially in the beginning… but at what point does “community” trump the work? Where does striving to be a community member take precedence over striving to make something singular and great? And once we create a community, aren’t we naturally creating walls. Those in the community and those not. Small tribes of writers and editors who mostly publish each other. (Which is fine and basically the way it’s always been.) But in a community based on online feedback and socializing, there’s a popularity-contest element that is a little disconcerting. Traditional NYC publishing is/was a community and it had clear paths to entry. The communities that are forming now are a little different and the idea that you need a FB account to be in, says something, not sure what.

It’s nice that writers are no longer ‘alone’ and have easy access to like-minded people. But there’s a pretty strong argument that, traditionally, being alone is where the good work happens.

To completely contradict this… for editors, it makes sense to create a stable of writers whose work you know and like and you can nurture. It’s your name on the journal and it only makes sense that the journal and its writers represent your aesthetic and efforts.